guns:how many do you own?

Friday on my mind · Mar 21, 2008

Facetious said:
'It means when the russians come, they're in deep shit !! lol

WADR - An ambiance of peace is not guaranteed ! It may have been peaceful in our short lifetimes :dunno:. . . Read any circa 1958 history book (before the mainstrean history revisionists hacked the texts) and you'll see. I hope.

Something that shouldn't be taken for granted. MOO

Reading those outdated slanted 1958 history books has kept you from keeping up.The cold war is over, now it's Islamo-facists that are the bogeyman.

But lets have some fun with the Russians anyway.:1orglaugh

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bombardier52 · Mar 22, 2008

Not enough! AR-15, 12 Gauge, 410, 3-06, 20 Gauge, M-1, a couple of 22s, a sweet 9mm and a 40.

Little comment on the pro-gun/anti-gun comments thus far. I have lived in places where nobody was armed (Ohio) and in a place where I swear everyone was armed (South Dakota) and it appears to me that an armed society is a polite society.

calpoon · Mar 22, 2008

don't own any guns. they are too expensive and too hard to get. you have to have a permit to carry a hand gun, you have to have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, you have to wait 21 days, you have to pass a background check, you have to register your gun so that everyone knows it's yours. so that if you ever use it then the cops will know that it was you and come and arrest you, and if you have an unregistered gun, then they will arrest you for that.

I don't want to sound like a psycho here, but what's the point in having a gun if you can't use it, and if you do use, then you can't get away with it?

Facetious · Mar 22, 2008

Friday on my mi said:
Reading those outdated slanted 1958 history books has kept you from keeping up.The cold war is over

My point with the older texts was to emphasize that there was a great deal of conflict in the years that proceeded us. I can't say the newer texts emphasize this much. and you know what they say about people who don't know their history. Personally, I believe that the original "cold war" never ended, it just went on a 20 year sabbatical lol. A brilliant strategy ! As most Americans really believe that the Kremlin has peace projected in their forecast. HA ! The American thinks for today whilst the others -> decades . . and to their credit, you know

bogeyman.But lets have some fun with the Russians anyway.

"bogeyman ?" Is this a pejorative of some sort ?
Tip - Stockpile 1 month worth (per person) of food and water in your home
just as a precaution for when said bogeyman arrives.:tongue:

satanic_boy69 · Mar 22, 2008

fresno said:
Nothing wrong with owning a gun, but personally I would never own one.

Same here, man.

georges · Mar 22, 2008

Renegade1Oh said:
Not Enough!!! I'll Have Enough When I Have Just One More Than The Government Has!! My Next Purchase Is A Barrett Model 82A1 with a 29" Barrel. Should Make A Nice Squirrel & Rabbit Rifle For 1+ Mile Shot's. My Favorite Is A Tie, Glock Model 22 In .40 S&W Semi-Auto, And My S&W Model 29 In .44 Rem. Mag. "Dirty Harry" Revolver. When My Neighbor's Dial 911 It Takes Usally 30-45 MINUTES For ANY HELP. So We Help Ourselves Like Good Neighbor's Should!!! Here's A Link If You Want To Take A Look At The Barrett.

http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_82.aspx

The Muzzle Blast Is A Trip!!!

I fired my uncle's m82a1 years ago, Barrett makes also 50 BMG ammo. Check the Chey Tac in cal 408, http://www.cheytac.com, it outperforms the barrett on distances longer than 2270m. Also I suggest you to try the para ord super hawg with a 6 barrel and a capacity of 15 shots in 45acp, quite a nice hardballer http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=71. My uncle bought one some weeks ago and he gets 2-2.5 inch groups at 50m with corbon ammo.

LBP 76 · Mar 22, 2008

LadyLove said:
Calling names and trying to categorize those that live in middle class neighborhoods as poor trash.

I said 'bad areas', not middle class areas. Middle class areas are good areas. I was and am referring to areas with weekly murders, nightly street violence and open prostitution and drug dealing; high crime areas. How you equate 'middle class' with a 'bad area' is beyond me.

member006 · Mar 22, 2008

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ninetysixcavy · Mar 22, 2008

calpoon said:
don't own any guns. they are too expensive and too hard to get. you have to have a permit to carry a hand gun, you have to have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, you have to wait 21 days, you have to pass a background check, you have to register your gun so that everyone knows it's yours. so that if you ever use it then the cops will know that it was you and come and arrest you, and if you have an unregistered gun, then they will arrest you for that.

I don't want to sound like a psycho here, but what's the point in having a gun if you can't use it, and if you do use, then you can't get away with it?

All the more reason to own a gun...because the government tells you you shouldn't or can't.

LBP 76 said:
I said 'bad areas', not middle class areas. Middle class areas are good areas. I was and am referring to areas with weekly murders, nightly street violence and open prostitution and drug dealing; high crime areas. How you equate 'middle class' with a 'bad area' is beyond me.

And who are the ones commiting all these murders and crimes? With what sort of legal weapons are they commiting them with?

RogueAlan · Mar 22, 2008

antiques? yes
usage for hunting? yes
and for daily carry? yes

i have enough... until i find a better version of whatever firearm i am using... presently the Bersa Ultra Compact .45

Here the state finally came through with a CC license... & I agree that there should be mandatory training/ licensure and would not oppose back ground checks or with controls psych evals... though the cost to the citizen becomes prohibitive.

In any case, strangely any business can post a garish 'no gun' sign as you see with no smoking, & my license is non functional.

Which means I don't shop there, but I wonder how many folks leave their firearm in the car, where the enterprising car thief becomes a future armed thief. & as has been discussed on the local radio, were my family to be injured while in such a store because they were not 'allowed' to carry, the lawsuit would be a slam dunk.

We call the signs 'please rob me' stickers locally. Considering criminals more often than not are using illegal firearms the idea that the sign somehow 'protects' the business or shoppers is illogical.

Almost as illogical as specifying how many guns I own, considering Obillary or Hillbama may take the District of Columbia 'ban' on ownership of firearms nationwide inrregardless of the Constitution & its Ammendments. Suffice to say enough... well kept.

pax

RA

Friday on my mind · Mar 23, 2008

Facetious said:
"bogeyman ?" Is this a pejorative of some sort ?
Tip - Stockpile 1 month worth (per person) of food and water in your home
just as a precaution for when said bogeyman arrives.:tongue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogeyman

"bogeyman can be used metaphorically to denote a person or thing of which someone has an irrational fear."

"In The Simpsons episode $pringfield, when Lisa wakes from a bad dream of the boogeyman, a gun-toting Homer hides himself and the children behind a mattress in terror, shooting from his cover at anything he thinks might be the boogeyman."

Didn't your parents ever tell ya the bogeyman would get ya?:eek:

The Russians are/were one thing.They have an actual capability if they ever choose to use it to do massive damage to the US.But the propaganda that we are involved in some sort of life and death struggle for our survival as a nation with Islamic radicals is kind of hard to take as seriously at least at this point.Maybe someday they will have such a capability along the lines the Russians do,but that would be at least a number of years off.You probably don't agree but I think the fearmongering and exaggeration of the threat is much more dangerous.It leads to silly things like Muslims in an airport saying a prayer being forced of their flight because some found that frighteneing.This is very similar to some of craziness that went on in the 50s with so-called "red scares" and McCarthyism.The things McCarthy claimed were prepostourous but in that climate of fear many went along with his claims and by doing so led to a lot of harm to innocent people.

jk34 · Mar 23, 2008

georges said:
Very often people who are against the second amendment and the NRA are Michael Moore's fanboys and backups as well as some very heavily scarred liberal bleed hearts who probably never fired a gun at the range or/and who have very little gun experience. I know and knew in the past many members on that board who were against 2nd amendment because they didn't see the usefulness of carrying a gun for defense or simply fire a gun at the range. California banned Barrett rifles or its law enforcement agencies because it was said by some dumb bitchy senator that it could shoot down a plane which was absolute bullshit and the state even banned high capacity for all guns as well as full automatics.
California still has a high rate of crime. In Europe, many people are scared to fire a gun, let alone to buy a good sharp blade. One day when I bought my Gerber Bowie knife in a great knife and gun store in Paris, an older guy looked at me in a very frightened way. What it would have been if I bought a Desert Eagle or a Wildey, I can't understand people sometimes.

lets continue "obama's draconian ..."thread, here its the same debate...

first,you got me on my grammar,english is not my native language,you didnt have to make those insulting remarks,im not that bad.
but everything else you wrote is the same bullshit;I heard that...I did this...I did that...my uncle this my uncle that,not too reliable sources.

Next you talked about how safe was NewYork when giulianni was mayor,he had a nice way of solving problems,moving prostitutes,beggars etc.. to another neiborhood where nobody sees them.No wonder hes not in the presidential race...

then you talked about canada's problems,come on...our gang related problems mostly comes from the states,they all try to look like the Crips or the bloods,wannabes if you ask me.you also talked about "the highway of tears"saying thats one of the worst murder case ever,how can you judge a whole country on one case(descrimation).the links you posted,one actually showed a decrease in murders in canada.

Canada's gun control plan is economicly a failure,ill admit that,but go ask police authorities in canada,they wouldnt want to work without it...

France has its own problems:racial and social descrimination(i feel that in you),riots every now and then,good thing you guys have strict gun laws or those riots would have been great,also youth unemploynment,poverty etc...

BTW,i never said southerns were rednecks,i said YOU think like a redneck,what i said,southern america thinks differently from northern america,its always been.so dont try to put words in my mouth...i trust this is very clear

georges · Mar 24, 2008

jk34 said:
lets continue "obama's draconian ..."thread, here its the same debate...

first,you got me on my grammar,english is not my native language,you didnt have to make those insulting remarks,im not that bad.
but everything else you wrote is the same bullshit;I heard that...I did this...I did that...my uncle this my uncle that,not too reliable sources.

Next you talked about how safe was NewYork when giulianni was mayor,he had a nice way of solving problems,moving prostitutes,beggars etc.. to another neiborhood where nobody sees them.No wonder hes not in the presidential race...

then you talked about canada's problems,come on...our gang related problems mostly comes from the states,they all try to look like the Crips or the bloods,wannabes if you ask me.you also talked about "the highway of tears"saying thats one of the worst murder case ever,how can you judge a whole country on one case(descrimation).the links you posted,one actually showed a decrease in murders in canada.

Canada's gun control plan is economicly a failure,ill admit that,but go ask police authorities in canada,they wouldnt want to work without it...

France has its own problems:racial and social descrimination(i feel that in you),riots every now and then,good thing you guys have strict gun laws or those riots would have been great,also youth unemploynment,poverty etc...

BTW,i never said southerns were rednecks,i said YOU think like a redneck,what i said,southern america thinks differently from northern america,its always been.so dont try to put words in my mouth...i trust this is very clear

If I am a redneck then you are a liberal socialist bleed heart as much as most of people who support the social liberals in Canada. I am not a redneck first but I have an appreciation for discipline and I am respectful of others whatever their racial background and whatever their religion is and also whatever their political beliefs are from the moment that they don't back up a socialist or a communist regime. I am one of the oldest (I am here since august 2003 so far longer than you and many board members know me far longer than you) and most respected members on that board. I however don't tolerate animosity, disruption and name calling, I never use aggressivity but if you like tough games (false assumptions, name calling and any kind of derogatory targeting)you will have it rough with me. You insulted me of redneck, so you had to think before first calling me names. Accepting insults is definitely not in my nature, neither is accepting any form of (misleading) targeting which concerns my family. Because what you wrote isn't the same liberal bullshit people aren't bored to hear??? You know my uncle, do you? So don't start to claim who is reliable when you have no ties and no relationships with law enforcement people.
So all Canada's gang related problems come from USA according to you, right? What a flawless logic:scream: The highway tears was an example of how laxist was the Canadian Justice towards criminals and no I wasn't judging according to a sole case which just shows that making wrong assumptions isn't helping your case. The links I posted showed an augmentation of violent crimes of course there are some provinces in Canada where criminality rate is small. USA and Canada population are not comparable, you can't compare apples to oranges.

France has terrible gun laws, laxism, the abolishment of death penalty, lack of discipline at school as well as sucky teachers and unadapted school programs, terrible mismanagement of the country on many plans ruined it economically, morally and culturally. In french schools, spelling was made easier in 2005 and some forbidden grammar and spelling mistakes which were before not authorized are now been permitted, I am not also mentioning the poor vocabulary, illiteracy and lack of penmanship in french schools since the 90's. Very few pupils know how to handle a pen correctly. Even the baccalaureat exams have been made easier by Mr Chirac in 2005, a thing that was unthinkable before. In my time, school was more difficult and much more unforgiving and this makes and made the difference. Some people are autodidacts and motivated people and others are a bunch of lazy and assisted students that are good for nothing. Some people are offered a job and refuse it. Youth unemployment is also due to that employers want reliable people on which they can count and that have enough of culture and knowledge in specific fields not some noob with no work experience and no knowledge of the BtoB or BtoC CRMs. Poverty is due to the government unwillingness to rise minimum wages and desire to force everyone to buy an apartment on credit (this is what M.Sarkozy wanted).

I don't need a reminder because I know pretty well that southern states aren't northern states and they aren't like Canada as well.

jk34 · Mar 24, 2008

georges said:
If I am a redneck then you are a liberal socialist bleed heart as much as most of people who support the social liberals in Canada. I am not a redneck first but I have an appreciation for discipline and I am respectful of others whatever their racial background and whatever their religion is and also whatever their political beliefs are from the moment that they don't back up a socialist or a communist regime. I am one of the oldest (I am here since august 2003 so far longer than you and many board members know me far longer than you) and most respected members on that board. I however don't tolerate animosity, disruption and name calling, I never use aggressivity but if you like tough games (false assumptions, name calling and any kind of derogatory targeting)you will have it rough with me. You insulted me of redneck, so you had to think before first calling me names. Accepting insults is definitely not in my nature, neither is accepting any form of (misleading) targeting which concerns my family. Because what you wrote isn't the same liberal bullshit people aren't bored to hear??? You know my uncle, do you? So don't start to claim who is reliable when you have no ties and no relationships with law enforcement people.
So all Canada's gang related problems come from USA according to you, right? What a flawless logic:scream: The highway tears was an example of how laxist was the Canadian Justice towards criminals and no I wasn't judging according to a sole case which just shows that making wrong assumptions isn't helping your case. The links I posted showed an augmentation of violent crimes of course there are some provinces in Canada where criminality rate is small. USA and Canada population are not comparable, you can't compare apples to oranges.

France has terrible gun laws, laxism, the abolishment of death penalty, lack of discipline at school as well as sucky teachers and unadapted school programs, terrible mismanagement of the country on many plans ruined it economically, morally and culturally. In french schools, spelling was made easier in 2005 and some forbidden grammar and spelling mistakes which were before not authorized are now been permitted, I am not also mentioning the poor vocabulary, illiteracy and lack of penmanship in french schools since the 90's. Very few pupils know how to handle a pen correctly. Even the baccalaureat exams have been made easier by Mr Chirac in 2005, a thing that was unthinkable before. In my time, school was more difficult and much more unforgiving and this makes and made the difference. Some people are autodidacts and motivated people and others are a bunch of lazy and assisted students that are good for nothing. Some people are offered a job and refuse it. Youth unemployment is also due to that employers want reliable people on which they can count and that have enough of culture and knowledge in specific fields not some noob with no work experience and no knowledge of the BtoB or BtoC CRMs. Poverty is due to the government unwillingness to rise minimum wages and desire to force everyone to buy an apartment on credit (this is what M.Sarkozy wanted).

I don't need a reminder because I know pretty well that southern states aren't northern states and they aren't like Canada as well.

again,i didnt say you were a redneck,i said you think like a redneck on this particular subject,doesnt mean i disagree with you on everything,i dont mind being called a socialist,i enjoy it...

and i didnt say all gang related problems comes from the USA,i said mostly...Canada is influenced by everything the americans produce.music,movies,fashion,arts and even crimes(home invasions,gangs)guns in canada mostly comes from the usa,smuggled by indians...guns bougth legally since its so easy,reliable source told me...border agent

what i said about france is common knowledge,i never claimed im an expert,so please dont try to tell me whats wrong with my country,before afghanistan canada was respected,but we followed the US in this stupid war.

there is less and less differences between canada and usa,so im not comparing apples and oranges...

dont say you respect peoples political beliefs,you hate democrats,socialist and communist,thats what i feel when i read your posts.

and whats that about you being a more respected member,who cares,i dont care,if i dont agree with you,ill say it.people around me respect me,thats what i care about,not rep points,number of posts or since when im a member,this is freeones forum,not real life...people can say and claim what they want,true or false...you take it too seriously

georges · Mar 24, 2008

jk34 said:
again,i didnt say you were a redneck,i said you think like a redneck on this particular subject,doesnt mean i disagree with you on everything,i dont mind being called a socialist,i enjoy it...

and i didnt say all gang related problems comes from the USA,i said mostly...Canada is influenced by everything the americans produce.music,movies,fashion,arts and even crimes(home invasions,gangs)guns in canada mostly comes from the usa,smuggled by indians...guns bougth legally since its so easy,reliable source told me...border agent

what i said about france is common knowledge,i never claimed im an expert,so please dont try to tell me whats wrong with my country,before afghanistan canada was respected,but we followed the US in this stupid war.

there is less and less differences between canada and usa,so im not comparing apples and oranges...

dont say you respect peoples political beliefs,you hate democrats,socialist and communist,thats what i feel when i read your posts.

and whats that about you being a more respected member,who cares,i dont care,if i dont agree with you,ill say it.people around me respect me,thats what i care about,not rep points,number of posts or since when im a member,this is freeones forum,not real life...people can say and claim what they want,true or false...you take it too seriously

I hate communist and socialist regimes because both regimes have lead people to misery and false hopes. Most of people who lived in a socialist or communist regime have no knowledge of what is capitalism and the right to own something privately and earn a big salary than the minimal salary given to them by the state. Communism is control of the individual by the state, something none wants. Socialism was always an utopy. Socialist governments have made France bankrupt, it means making social assisting of other people, in the USA that would never happen.
It is not matter of posts or not, it is a matter of respect. Have you ever seen me jumping on someone who is a new or an old member and being irrespectful to him just because he told something which I disagreed with?
I happened and still happen to strongly disagree with people but I never lacked respect nor politeness to anyone on that board.

Kil4Thril · Mar 24, 2008

RogueAlan said:
antiques? yes
usage for hunting? yes
and for daily carry? yes

i have enough... until i find a better version of whatever firearm i am using... presently the Bersa Ultra Compact .45

Here the state finally came through with a CC license... & I agree that there should be mandatory training/ licensure and would not oppose back ground checks or with controls psych evals... though the cost to the citizen becomes prohibitive.

In any case, strangely any business can post a garish 'no gun' sign as you see with no smoking, & my license is non functional.

Which means I don't shop there, but I wonder how many folks leave their firearm in the car, where the enterprising car thief becomes a future armed thief. & as has been discussed on the local radio, were my family to be injured while in such a store because they were not 'allowed' to carry, the lawsuit would be a slam dunk.

We call the signs 'please rob me' stickers locally. Considering criminals more often than not are using illegal firearms the idea that the sign somehow 'protects' the business or shoppers is illogical.

Almost as illogical as specifying how many guns I own, considering Obillary or Hillbama may take the District of Columbia 'ban' on ownership of firearms nationwide inrregardless of the Constitution & its Ammendments. Suffice to say enough... well kept.

pax

RA

Kentucky? I have heard the same radio announcements there. It becomes a liability case if someone is disarmed by a business then injured. It is a small solace.

Facetious · Mar 24, 2008

RogueAlan said:
In any case, strangely any business can post a garish 'no gun' sign as you see with no smoking, & my license is non functional.

Which means I don't shop there, but I wonder how many folks leave their firearm in the car, where the enterprising car thief becomes a future armed thief. & as has been discussed on the local radio, were my family to be injured while in such a store because they were not 'allowed' to carry, the lawsuit would be a slam dunk.

We call the signs 'please rob me' stickers locally. Considering criminals more often than not are using illegal firearms the idea that the sign somehow 'protects' the business or shoppers is illogical.

RA - You'll like this -

Sean Penn's car, 2 guns stolen in Calif.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Sean Penn's car — with two guns inside — was stolen earlier this week from a busy Berkeley street while the actor was eating lunch at a nearby restaurant.

The black 1987 Buick Grand National had a loaded 9 mm Glock handgun and an unloaded .38-caliber Smith and Wesson revolver inside, police said.

Police Officer Mary Kusmiss said Penn had a concealed weapons permit to carry the guns. The car, stolen Tuesday afternoon, hadn't been recovered by early Thursday.

More -> http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-04-10-penn_x.htm

Ya think ? lol

Friday on my mi said:
"bogeyman can be used metaphorically to denote a person or thing of which someone has an irrational fear."

[ . . .]

The Russians are/were one thing.They have an actual capability if they ever choose to use it to do massive damage to the US.But the propaganda that we are involved in some sort of life and death struggle for our survival as a nation with Islamic radicals is kind of hard to take as seriously at least at this point.

I've stated many times that it is the govt. I "fear" greater than any terrorism we might experience.

And my use of the ruskies entering a disarmed Europe . . . highly probable . .YMMV .

Bloodshot Scott · Mar 24, 2008

none but I fully intend on purchasing a Remmington 12 gauge shotgun when I purchase a home. nothing like a good buckshot for any would be criminals.

Facetious · Mar 24, 2008

Bloodshot Scott said:
none but I fully intend on purchasing a Remmington 12 gauge shotgun when I purchase a home. nothing like a good buckshot for any would be criminals.

:thumbsup:
http://www.remingtonle.com/shotguns/870tactical.htm

senob44 · Mar 24, 2008

I don't own any guns, but I do strongly believe in the 2nd amendment.

I typically lean to the left, but I think the right to bear arms is a right worth keeping. If I knew anything about guns at all, I probably would have one.

guns:how many do you own?

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