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| They actually made Motoyasu look even dumber in the anime. iirc in the LN Myne just strike Naofumi with light wind magic from behind just to give Motoyasu to make a comeback so it seemed like Naofumi really just messed up In the anime she blows up Naofumi to the other side of the arena with her magic and Motoyasu take no notice of it. Holy shit how dumb can you be Motpyasu? |
| Wow I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Absolutely cracking episode. This series is a banger. "Curse Series Unlocked" holy shit is this finally an attack shield? This sounds amazing. Kilaldagren said: I don't hate the Spear Hero like others do. I make an effort to be understanding of the Mentally disabled. LOL what a crack up comment! |
Zei33Jan 31, 2019 3:51 AM
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| when Naofumi said he waited for someone to say such caring words snd encouragement, i felt that. where’s a racoon girl when i need one huh:( |
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| I was shocked actually that bow and sword heroes actually defended the shield guy and openly pointed out how the bitch cheated as well as the king playing blind. At this point i was certain that EVERYONE would keep on hating the shield hero. P.S It was getting annoying seeing shield hero getting bashed over and over again. I mean, it's ep4 and this shit keeps happening again! "Will such treatment of shield hero continue?" - I wondered. Gladly, the moment other 2 heroes "intervened" it felt like a fresh breeze... |
| Perfect episode or near. Like always, they leave out some things who were good ... but we can't having all. |
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| The spear guy is being used as fuck. |
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| What is it this time huh? What kind of bullshit did that bitch told to Motoyasu? Aaandd... It's some bullshit about the fact that Raphtalia is a slave hold against her will and abused by Naofumi... Great and now Naofumi has to duel Motoysu. Besides, only now did people care about demihuman slaves, how about the other demihuman slaves?! *Soldiers grabs and subdue Raphtalia* Me: "Get yer fucking hands off Raphtalia!!!" I flipped when I saw how Malty used that wind magic, breaking the laws of duelling and when nobody saw that as the truth and straight up decided that Motoyasu won the duel, that shit piss me the fuck off. Gladly, the bow and sword heroes saw this cheating and called Malty out for it, and mybeeven the pope is aware of that fact. At least we got some decent people around and not a whole group of retards working together to humiliate and accuse Naofumi for every single shit whetehr it be real of some made up bullshit! Damn, Naofumi almost lost it after the duel ended. He can't tolerate to feel this pain he's in right now anymore but thaks to Raphtalia who truly believed in him no matter what, she brrought Naofumi back to reality. And now he can finally see that Naofumi is not a loli anymore but instead, a genuine best girl of this series. She even made Naofumi be able to finally taste good flavour again after she saved him from the pain he was in! 2 Cool things in this ep:
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| the hero they need but dont deserve. naofumi should just bitch slap bitchy and trash. |
Swagernator said: sasalx said: I think the main problem is people usually don't expect a reasoning if you say something is good but they will very much expect a solid reason if you don't like it. As i was told here, if you are coming every week here to say "This show is so good, best girl this, best girl that, best show ewaaaaa" youre a fan, a genuine fan of the show ... but when youre coming every week to say "I dont like this episode, but i'll stay to see if it will get better" youre "fucking troll, and one of those haters". You can't win with those people. That’s the hilarious part about them, even legitimate criticism is seen as being a hater. |
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| Good episode! Ralphtalia really shines in this one. I watched this episode first thing when I woke up, so my sleepiness may have impacted my enjoyment of this episode, so I’ll probably have to rewatch later to truly enjoy it. I don’t remember Naofumi unlocking the Cursed Shield this early on, though. It’s been awhile since I was on that part of the manga, though. |
Mullerio said: I'm not really sure where this info comes from but maybe... Human hates Demi humans > A war broke out > previous shield hero had a hand helping Demi humans > that's why.?This episode was by far the best so far if we get the explanation for this curse thing the shield made after the duel... Finally the other Heros think like Humans and good development for Naofumi (even if i think his monolog couldve been executed way better),still i really dont know or at least cant stand the explanation why the shield hero has to be a scapegoat for everyone because as we saw here the King and her Princess planed everything... The best thing that could happen is that the spear dude gets abused in a similar way as Naofumi by the red hair bitch and after that getting his development... Still cant stand the Heros because there have 0 personality and are at the moment just plot devices The show gets better and maybe will be in my Top 5 this season i have to see how some of the others develop |
| Front Hooks...Oh yeah... |
idodo35 said: Demyx_IX said: 1. Spear hero is an idiot who thinks with his dick and doesn't think Melty is evil at all. 2. The shield he uses has a special effect, which is a counter attack with a chance to paralyze the attacker. The anime doesn't really explain that that's the case, but it isn't hard to see that Spear hits the shield, and the counter activates. Paying attention to what is happening helps ;) 3. It's called being hypocritical. A common thing for antagonists and assholes. The whole thing was just to make Naofumi look even worse than before. Saying that he would stoop so low to force someone to being in his party when nobody else would, when given the choice to do so , of their own free will. 4. He's had them on him since episode 1. Also nobody is going to think a sane person would willingly go around with monsters biting them. 1.in universe he has no reason to suspect her, we know she's a coniving cunt but she has'nt revealed her true colours aside from being racist (which seems quite common) he seems like he's being built as a fool being tricked by melty for whatever reason, but he's just acting like a jerk regardless... 2. ok so it's a counter, but in the show he activates it himself, we have no indication he needed to be hit for that to work (it looks like he just wanted him to get closer for a cleaner shot, which makes sense) if this is just a counter i guess that's fine (kind of) but still kind of takes away from the interesting idea of him being purely defensive and reliant on others to deal damage 3. that's a lazy excuse "oh they are being inconsistant because they're hypocritical" then why does no one call that out? not even naofumi? like a "you were fine insulting her until it was conveniant to care" or anything would make the inconsistancy make some sense but it goes unacknowledged 4. of course they'd suspect him, if he's been running around with those fuckers for 4 episodes (also they don't always seem to be there) they should be ready for him to cheat... 3. You do realize that they're the King and the prince of the country that they are all currently in, right? Which means that everyone in attendance, is literally a friend/ally of them. So it would not make sense for them to call them out for the hypocrisy and not for the interference in the duel, and vice versa. Also its not a lazy excuse, everything that has happened can be traced back to those two. The poor treatment before even being accused of rape, the lies and betrayal, etc. Why would they not want to make sure that his reputation is completely tarnished and take away the only person who is in his party to help him fight? 4. They're literally hidden underneath his cloak, so he doesn't look suspicious at all. And seeing as how Spear has no idea why there's a balloon there in the first place, its safe to say that word of Naofumi's antics had not reached the other heroes. And the knights treated the rumors as just another attempt to ruin Naofumi's reputation. |
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| That spear guy is so annoying. Other than that, another good episode. A nice slap from Raphtalia. |
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| Damn, this show does so well with one's emotions. It's been quite a while since I've seen a character that I want to see ripped to shreds and placed in a fire. That character is Myne. And boy she can REALLY go fuck herself, big time. Same goes for her father, who is the king and the rest of this corrupt royal family. Their endless bashing and spitefulness on Naofumi has really gotten out of hand when they restrained Raphtalia against her will and had Motoyasu challenge Naofumi to a duel. The duel that happened was very tense. Despite being half the level as Moyotasu, Naofumi was getting the better of him. As things were going well for Naofumi, Myne decided to rig the duel by launching a wind attack on Naofumi, which placed him on the back-foot immediately and, sadly, led to his defeat. As the royals declared victory and the crowd seemingly wanting Naofumi to perish, Naofumi completely lost his mind, unlocking the Curse Series in the process of his mental meltdown. Seeing Raphtalia go back to her loli form and being freed of Naofumi only made his despair worse... ...only that was thankfully in his mind. Raphtalia gave Moyotasu a deserved slap to the face and when Myne tried to defend herself from Raphtalia's verbal beatdown, the other two heroes also backed Raphtalia up by criticising the rigging of the match and they declared themselves that Moyotasu lost the fight. Whichever way you look at it, the royals screwed up their petty plan. Raphtalia is such a sweetheart, as she was calm and collected as she comforted Naofumi to ease him from his despair and they both cried together. She did explain during the credits as to how she got older very quickly and that is down to how many levels she's at. It's also why demi-humans get looked down upon society in this world. D= So yeah, this episode made me cheer, yell, surprise and even shed a tear or two during the touching moment with Raphtalia and Naofumi at the end. Plus, the soundtrack, as expected of Kevin Penkin, was also excellent throughout the episode and made it all the more enjoyable. Bravo! =3 |
| Wow epic battle xD. |
Icedout15 said: wait so is spear hero also gettin played? Yes He's not a bad guy, he's just being brainwashed since they have arrived in this world Ofc he's pretty naive and idiot to trust that b*tch Dani0123456 said: I am a bit mad that they didn't imply the kiss at the end of the chapter in the manga. I think that the Moment he kissed her was a huge development in their relationship. What kind of kiss was that? A kiss on the face? Or the lips? 🤨 Mod Edit: Merged consecutive posts; please use the edit button. |
TenshoJan 31, 2019 6:34 PM
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| The cliche in 7:44 made me laugh so much... |
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idodo35 said: but he seems just as hostile for hostility's sake, he's not disgusted with naofumi because he thinks he's a jerk, he just seems to enjoy kicking him while he's down. this character could be very interesting if he's allowed to actually look conflicted, but instead he just seems like he's putting on a show of not being as bad as the rest... He thinks he's a sexual assaulter who took advantage of a helpless women. He also thinks he is using Raphtalia as a tool who will be tossed aside once he expends all of her energy. Jerk doesn't fully define what he thinks of Naofumi so that's why he is always hostile towards him. He's not really meant to be really interesting 'yet' he's a dumbass that's being taken advantage of by a women. ok but what i meant that thematically it was more interesting to have a character who can't fight on his own requiring him to be creative, having a direct attack, even a relatively inefficient one kind of beats that purpose... The other responder had a better reply to this. woul'dnt they though? they all expected him to be a cheat... and how are those things on him at all times? when did he replenish them? He can't even use weapons weapons and I doubt they expect him to be carrying around balloon monsters. And even then, they're only level one creatures that are more of a nuisance than anything. He also never expected to be having a duel in the first place, so there isn't a reason for him to come prepared for one. 3. that's a lazy excuse "oh they are being inconsistant because they're hypocritical" then why does no one call that out? not even naofumi? like a "you were fine insulting her until it was conveniant to care" or anything would make the inconsistancy make some sense but it goes unacknowledged When the king, the nobles and the princess are all conspiring against you...a lot of good calling them out on their hypocrisy will do. Motoyasu is too brainwashed to even see the contradiction in Malty's actions. Naofumi did say that slavery is legal and it's the countries fault for making it this way, not his own. But then Motoyasu got on his high horse about heroes from another world shouldn't have slaves so that didn't do a lot of good. -Aincrad- said: What kind of kiss was that? A kiss on the face? Or the lips? 🤨 It was a kiss on the cheek where Naofumi thinks she ends up getting mad about it but she just gets very flustered and ends up stuttering not knowing what to say. Cute seen, unfortunately it got nixed. malMaxi said: Thanks for that. |
KilluanJan 31, 2019 8:16 AM
| The feels in this episode are insane. I never felt this type of emotion in a while what the fck, I was experiencing a lot of shit in just 24 minutes. |
  Once we realize it, everything will fall into place Our hearts calling to the future with all their might We'll move forward, holding each other's shaking hands |
| Jeez. This episode really draw out that anger from me. I felt that I was in the MC's shoes and I hated everyone! So the bitch's name was Malty (I honestly forgot she was called Myne Sophia before coz I forkin' hate her!) and also a princess of the kingdom (daughter of that scumbag king). I really want the MC to punch her face so hard though so I will be satisfied. Quite happy that the Shield Hero beat the Spear Hero in their duel. Who said that the Shield Hero can only defend? He utilized his abilities efficiently. But of course the bitch intervenes and hit Naofumi in order to distract him. What a cheating bitch! The Sword and Archer Hero are fine in this episode as they're being fair and acknowledged that the bitch and king are cheating this duel to let Motoyasu win. I love the scene where Raphtalia trying to comfort Naofumi as the guy was about to explode from sheer anger and hopelessness. Glad there's a character like her in this anime. Best Girl! |
footmasterJan 31, 2019 8:45 AM
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| Well at least not ALL of the summoned heroes are cancerous dicks. I thought that #1 fuckboy Spear Hero was deliberately trying to screw over Naofumi but apparently he's just a gullible white-knighting douchenozzle. That does not make me hate him less though. Seriously, why the fuck did they even summon a Shield Hero. |
| This episode is a good example of how the people thinks. If a story that generates emotions in basis only for victimize their characters with cartoon villains who hate them for no reason only so that the protagonists "have it difficult" then it's good, nothing to do with another anime where everyone cooperates and solves problems in a rational and peaceful way not that's boring and silly. |
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| that bitch...ohh I am so mad of that fallen princess..even the king is on it...that's just sad |
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Kougeru said: This show still just feels like it's trying hard to defend slavery. As I said last week, there was no logical reason for him NOT to free her already. This episode tried to make everyone else look like bad guys and Naofumi a good guy but sorry, he's still the real bad guy for wanted to keep her as a slave and for (as he admitted) seeing someone as a "tool" and not a person. Then Malty shows her racist side so she's still getting worse, too. Basically Malty and Naofumi are both terrible but the other heroes don't seem too bad,just ignorant of the truth. But the author still seems to be pushing awful messages like "slavery is okay if the slave says so" and the other stuff from earlier episodes. Is there a logical reason to free her ?! What difference it make anyway ? Her life won't change anyway. What is the big deal if the anime has slavery or rape or false rape accusation whatever ?! Or what if the main character is bad guy ?! What is the big deal. It just fictional show. People act as if anime is supposed to teach us moral or something. ""slavery is okay if the slave says so" Who decide if this ok or not ok ?! Your views are just subjective. Not all culture in history agree with what you think is okay and not okay |
thepath said: ""slavery is okay if the slave says so" Who decide if this ok or not ok ?! Your views are just subjective. Not all culture in history agree with what you think is okay and not okay I mean, I think most of us have managed to land on 'slavery is not OK' by now... |
Maurice_5 said: thepath said: ""slavery is okay if the slave says so" Who decide if this ok or not ok ?! Your views are just subjective. Not all culture in history agree with what you think is okay and not okay I mean, I think most of us have managed to land on 'slavery is not OK' by now... ...with some exceptions. That's my stance and i'm sticking with it. |
| The characters behavior is retarded (Naofumi most of all letting them treat him like that), but I guess the overall plot is ok, and they do a good job of conveying strong emotions, if only they were not based on such stupid decisions. The whole episode could've been solved faster and more realistically if Naofumi just liberated Raphtalia the moment the Spear Hero challenged him. I don't understand why the fuck does Naofumi care at all about winning the duel, even if the King makes him accept it anyway, he could've just surrender. And then the BITCH princess, I get that's she's a BITCH, but she's also retarded as fuck, in the first episode she at least got money out of it (it still was a stupid decision robbing and framing a guy you summoned to fucking save the world, and more so if she's a princess, why the fuck does she need to rob money?), but in this episode she doesn't even get anything out of it. If I were Naofumi I would just leave the country and live my life (every time he's teleported back too), and let them die when something probably happens latter that only the Shield Hero can solve. |
Cazador75Jan 31, 2019 10:20 AM
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Killuan said: ...with some exceptions. That's my stance and i'm sticking with it. Hang on, I gotta clarify something. Do you mean, "Everybody, with some exceptions, agrees that slavery is not OK", or "Everyone agrees slavery is not OK, with some exceptions (where slavery is OK)"? Those are two very different things, and one is a lot more worrying than the other. |
Maurice_5 said: Killuan said: ...with some exceptions. That's my stance and i'm sticking with it. Hang on, I gotta clarify something. Do you mean, "Everybody, with some exceptions, agrees that slavery is not OK", or "Everyone agrees slavery is not OK, with some exceptions (where slavery is OK)"? Those are two very different things, and one is a lot more worrying than the other. With some exceptions, slavery is okay. For instance, I'll defend the relationship betwen Naofumi and Raphtalia with my dying breath. Because you couldn't convince me there was a better alternative for her given the circumstances. |
Killuan said: With some exceptions, slavery is okay. For instance, I'll defend the relationship betwen Naofumi and Raphtalia with my dying breath. Because you couldn't convince me there was a better alternative for her given the circumstances. In these very specifically contrived circumstances that you'd only get in fiction and only make sense because of magic? Sure, why not. (Though I still disagree.) But I was responding to thepath, who seemed to imply that there was somehow some confusion over whether slavery was OK or not in the real world. |
Maurice_5 said: Killuan said: With some exceptions, slavery is okay. For instance, I'll defend the relationship betwen Naofumi and Raphtalia with my dying breath. Because you couldn't convince me there was a better alternative for her given the circumstances. In these very specifically contrived circumstances that you'd only get in fiction and only make sense because of magic? Sure, why not. (Though I still disagree.) But I was responding to thepath, who seemed to imply that there was somehow some confusion over whether slavery was OK or not in the real world. It's not too hard to come up with some real life examples. It depends to what extent a master abuses their power. Just because you have absolute control over your slave it doesn't mean you need to enforce that control on them. Generally speaking I feel that if it leads to a better life for the slave and the slave willingly accepts the power imbalance then who am I to judge. Albeit this might be closer to an indentured servant. |
Maurice_5 said: thepath said: ""slavery is okay if the slave says so" Who decide if this ok or not ok ?! Your views are just subjective. Not all culture in history agree with what you think is okay and not okay I mean, I think most of us have managed to land on 'slavery is not OK' by now... Many of those who claim that slavery is not ok would own slave if it was legal specially if they were put in same situation as Naofumi, and many of them would not even treat their slaves as human being like Naofumi does Also, just because we don't think ok it does not mean that all main characters in fiction must be good law-abiding character who follow 21th century western morals. |
thepath said: What is the big deal if the anime has slavery or rape or false rape accusation whatever ?! Well, let's see... thepath said: Is there a logical reason to free her ?! What difference it make anyway ? Her life won't change anyway. Who decide if this ok or not ok ?! Your views are just subjective. Not all culture in history agree with what you think is okay and not okay I think you answered your own question. Jagh said: God damn this fucking show. I really do like this show. But it has to have some of the most poorly written lame fucking characters I have ever seen. literally every person that isn't white agil is an antagonizing dick head for no fucking reason. It's insulting. Good example from this episode, the bow and sword heros have been glib twits for most of the series. Then suddenly they are questioning the princess and claiming that the spear hero lost the fight. Even though they didn't see properly who cast the magic, they just assumed it was her even though they had no reason to do so. I mean ... huh? They apparently act like mindless assholes until the plot suddenly needs them to not do that anymore. Mod Edit: Merged consecutive posts; please use the edit button. |
TenshoJan 31, 2019 6:30 PM
| [quote=malMaxi][quote=Killuan message=56840271] curiosity sated for the first and the second one being a fucking lie i think i'm done with the naofumi pity party for now... Actually, there will be a few more twists on the second one. So this cursed series is useless ? 😡 wtf |
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| One thing I don't really get is that Naofumi seems so confused about Raphtalias new appearance even though she was already this big a few episodes ago? Did he really just now noticed that? Kinda weird but okay xD |
SSL443 said: Jagh said: God damn this fucking show. I really do like this show. But it has to have some of the most poorly written lame fucking characters I have ever seen. literally every person that isn't white agil is an antagonizing dick head for no fucking reason. It's insulting. Good example from this episode, the bow and sword heros have been glib twits for most of the series. Then suddenly they are questioning the princess and claiming that the spear hero lost the fight. Even though they didn't see properly who cast the magic, they just assumed it was her even though they had no reason to do so. I mean ... huh? They apparently act like mindless assholes until the plot suddenly needs them to not do that anymore. They knew it was Myne. They just said it was hard to tell because it was wind magic, that doesn't mean they couldn't tell. The sword hero did say "someone shot that magic" but listen to his voice and notice how he changed where his eyes are looking(from Motoyasu to Myne). It's because he knows it was Myne and was just sarcastically saying "someone, that someone being Myne" |
KilluanJan 31, 2019 12:31 PM
Daniel_Naumov said: vanetz said: Well at least not ALL of the summoned heroes are cancerous dicks. I thought that #1 fuckboy Spear Hero was deliberately trying to screw over Naofumi but apparently he's just a gullible white-knighting douchenozzle. That does not make me hate him less though. Seriously, why the fuck did they even summon a Shield Hero. It makes me really perplexing, how so many people could be this... oblivious to seriously blame Spear Hero for being a part of the plot, when he was also just a victim. And they summoned him because the ritual always summons four heroes. They have no control over it. Maybe it's because he was ALSO being a huge dick about the whole situation. At least it was made more or less clear now. And during the episode someone in the balcony literally asked why did they summon him. Your perception is likely biased because you read the LN or manga. Keep in mind most people here are discussing these episodes based purely on what is shown in the anime. Did I alleviate your perplexion somewhat? |
| @Daniel_Naumov Funny thing I'm not one of the people who hate the show. I'm agreeing with the fact that even when presented good criticism, people will still shrug it off or take it the wrong way. Just saying they are whining doesn't add nothing. |
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