i hope it is available online at some point, ny/philly is too far from chicago to go for a comedy set despite chuck nice being 1 of my favorite comics now :( let's hear it for the black noise!!
They never did any damage to me. I thought the "dark side of the moon" was the side we can't normally see from earth. Not that it is never lit by the sun. Timeless album.
During solar eclipses, the moon casts a shadow, and since it always shows the same side to us, it's easy to reason that the other side is illuminated by the sun.
Our solar eclipses are Terran(Earth) eclipses on the near side of the moon and our lunar eclipses are [lunar] "solar eclipses". Anyone need Tylenol? LOL
@@andrej2375 For an object to cast a shadow, it must be illuminated from behind by a source of light. How many light sources you know in our solar system capable of illuminate so strong an object the size of the moon in order for it to cast a shadow ?
1:08 or you could've just told them to listen to the whole album,,,,final lyrics are literally "There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun."
Except the illuminated part of the moon is REALLY REALLY bright. It's hard to call that dark in any sense. But that quote was the first thing I thought of
Pink Floyd wanted to say something which we can only whisper, so the secret police doesn't hear us. The moon is all dark... inside... because it's hollow.
In the context of the album 'The Dark Side of The Moon' is a metaphor for what we now call mental illness, but at the time was referred to as lunacy, hence the lunar connection.
"The Dark Side of the Moon" was inspired by Syd Barrett...as well as most of what they did.."wish you were here", "the wall" is a mixture of Roger Waters issues with society and withdraw, and Syd. The Dark Side of the Moon was pretty even handed...all members wrote (Waters, Gilmour, Wright... Mason's drumming even shows up in "Time"...) something significant... though touches on , obviously life and death..war ...the rat race we are all in, and one track directly about mental illness, he either got a bad dose, some say intentionally as his popularity was at its zenith..may have even had the wrong girl. Too much of the original LSD 25 (original recipe) probably wouldn't cause the drastic and quick changes seen by Pink Floyd...unless he was unstable to begin with "if" LSD unlocked the "dam that broke many years too soon". Either way..Wish You Were Here was written minus "cigar" exclusively for Syd...or mental illness, dark side was the first to bring that up though. Excellent video too!!!
no it isn’t. you are completely, emphatically and totally wrong. i don’t care what you heard, you are intellectually poor if you think the album is about mental illness. start over and think through it yourself. this is the only way to understand it. by the time you’re done you’ll realize how wrong you are about everything in life.
What’s even crazier is, I just rocked this album out in its entirety while driving around for work today. I had to replay The Great Gig in the Sky a few times before proceeding on to the end, however. That track is an experience all on its own. Great video as always, gents 🍻
I'm a speaker of French from Québec, Canada. In French, we always refer to what English speakers refer to as "Dark side of the moon" as "la face cachée de la lune" meaning "hidden face of the moon", which is the right way to describe it.
Some parts of Earth, the moon and everything else that orbits the sun are in total darkness until they rotate toward the sun's rays. So the title of the song is actually correct. There is a dark side of the moon just not a permanent one.
"...It's all dark" at some point. Except for the circumsolar craters... If there are some craters always shrouded in darkness, where they're looking for ice... it stands to reason that some peaks opposite those, on the globe of the moon, would always be sun-scorched. Then I wonder whether there's a location, in some perfect placed caves or crater wall, in the shadows near the sunniest pole, where the temperature isn't too bad. Would that have an advantage over a perpetually cold and dark spot that has abundant ice... for human habitation, I mean. It's just a thought experiment, for now.
I always thought that the album was a metaphor, but the scientific reference was that the lunar orbiter was out of radio contact. Areas without radio comms are known as dark territories (as mentioned in Under Siege 2: Dark Territory)
it ya a metaphor, it’s not about the moon, not about mental illness. you will have to figure it out yourself. no one will tell you. you will never find anyone who will tell you. begin again.
@@embroiledalive5232 For what it’s worth, I’m 33 and I listen to metal, classical and 90’s hip hop. I still second the vote for DSOTM as the greatest musical piece of them all. Lol. Big Pun Capital Punishment is 2nd.
@@bovinejonie3745 yeah. It's great that you know and love Pink Floyd. I wonder how common that is across age groups. I did read the other day that it is one of the most popular albums (dsotm) across ages --but they didn't give details.
Having atmospheric pressure is mind bllowing and Neil pointing out that light behaves differently than on the moon due to it not having air diffusing light
I'm only now, beginning to understand how different my family was. My brother and dad made every moment a learning experience. Thank you for these videos, they remind me of them😢
I was under the impression that the term "dark side of the moon" referred to the fact nobody had seen it until the advent of space exploration and "dark" meant it was unknown to us, like dark matter and dark energy.
@@jamesharmon4994 …. *those* is more grammatically correct. My brain automatically corrects it even when I am listening to the song. I’ll take the quotes off for yah.
I could be wrong, however, the final track is named "Eclipse", with the last singing lyric before the guy who speaks sings, "the sun is eclipsed by the moon". Which always lead me to believe that they meant that the story line of the album is occurring during the time that Earth is passing through the Moon's shadow. At least by the final track, we are on the dark side of the moon. Reaching the totality of the eclipse. Not stating there is any permanent dark side, but using the eclipse as a metiphore for their style of lyrical poetry.
@@bridey1simon It is a significant part. I understand if Neil was never into Pink Floyd. I just always think of how scientific the eclipse aspect is when he misunderstands.
There was actually an album released by a band called Medicine Head in 1971 called Dark Side of the Moon. Pink Floyd considered naming their album 'Eclipse' and putting the Silver Surfer on the cover because of that. But they decided to wait and see what happened with the other album. When that one flopped, they went ahead with naming their album Dark Side of the Moon and using the now iconic prism graphic on the cover.
@@TiffanySlutt-qs3wi David Gilmour is quoted as saying this to writer Glenn Povey for his biography about the band, _Echoes._ Trust is overrated, bro. Look it up.
The phrase "Dark side of the moon" is not literal how people think it is, like it is always in dark, it is just how we say for the things we can't see from here (Earth) because of the tidal lock. We all know that the moon revolve around Earth and every moment different area is being bombarded by a sun and another one going to shade :D But it is nice to finally solve the "Dark side of the moon" once and for all for people who really doesn't know :D Keep up great content both Niel and Chuck, great work
I studied Orbital Mechanics, I know very well what goes on at the side of the Moon (which I like to call Luna) that we never see from the surface of the Earth - because of the tidal lock. That said, i still want to call the Far Side of the Moon with the "Dark Side" appellative. It made true sense when we knew less about the Solar System. The "Dark Side" appellative contains a millennia of beautiful Ellenic poetry about Selene - and then Luna - in a circle of darkness rounded in infinite repeatability. The Dark Side tells me the history of astronomy. The Far Side tells me of a newer but glacial knowledge. A knowledge from who calls a lack of knowledge, without knowing simple things like what is a libration point between the Moon and the Earth. Thanks for the great video! Greetings, Anthony
I'm glad Neil finally cleared this up. I was just very recently thinking about this misconception. I felt all along that Pink Floyd was aware that the far side of the Moon isn't always the dark side. Just the fact that a song called Eclipse is on the album, which I believe refers to a Solar Eclipse, in which the dark side of the Moon is facing Earth.
I always took that dark as a metaphor for the side we can't see. So it's dark to us in a sense that we, for the longest time, didn't know anything about. Another thing that comes to my mind is is there any place in the universe that's actually dark? And how do you messure that? Photons per cubic meter? What is the border between dark and whatever is the opposite of it?
I also think of it in terms of radio broadcasts. You need something in lunar orbit to relay the signal. If you want to get away from it all, that is where you want to be.
The term "dark side of the Moon" is a bit of a misnomer. In reality, the Moon has a far side that is never visible from Earth due to synchronous rotation, but it receives just as much sunlight as the near side. The far side is often called the "dark side" due to its relative inaccessibility and the mystery surrounding it before the space age. Exploring this region has provided valuable insights into lunar geology and the history of our solar system. How does the far side of the Moon differ geologically from the near side, and what have recent missions revealed about this previously unexplored area that could enhance our understanding of the Moon's formation and evolution?
BUT IF YOU PAY ATTENTION, at the end of the record, you hear Gerry O'Driscoll (a doorman at Abbey Road Studios) closing out the album with the words, "There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark." ;)
“You should have took floyed out the same way you took out Pluto!!” I yelled thank you and laughed so hard at this😂. Never let him forget. R.I.P Pluto 😂
IMO Floyd was referring to the side of the moon than we see during a solar eclipse - the dark side. It’s only dark half the time, but a solar eclipse can only happen during a new moon. Also IMO, in DSOTM the sun represents awareness and consciousness. Someday the sun will set on all of our lives, and the eclipse represents our realization of that - our curse is to be aware that someday our consciousness will die with us. Just my take on it - I’d be interested to hear the thoughts of others.
The final track title Eclipse and the use of words in the song i think cement your point nicely :) also remarkably i hadn't put that together until just now despite listening to it for years..hahaa. so thanks 🎉😁💫
8:44 "Where the sun is shining it's 200 degrees above zero, you can sit out a cup of water and boil it". I guess the temperature doesn't really matter, cause there is no air pressure (or it is very low), and water will boil in much lower temperatures. Can you even have a liquid water on the Moon in a cup?
This is one of Niels pet peeves. But his frustration is due to his own assumption. There is always a dark side of the moon because it's a spheroid. He assumed that the lyric meant a "perpetually dark side" of the moon. Tyson is down with OCD
They are two different things; Dark side vs. Far side. They are not always the same. At some point (full moon or lunar eclipse approx.) the dark side is equal to the far side (approx.).
The far side of the moon actually receives more total sunlight than the side facing Earth as it never experiences lunar eclipses with the Earth's shadow passing over it, so perhaps what we can see is "the dark side". Just a thought🤔
This is the first time I can think of where I strongly disagree with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Yes there is a Dark Side of the Moon. It's not literally dark. It's called the dark side of the Moon because it's the side that doesn't face the Earth so there is little known about it. Just in the same way that Africa is called the Dark Continent. It's not called that because Africa gets less sunlight and it's also not called that because of skin color. It's called that because European explorers hadn't explored the interior of the continent and so very little was known about it. Neil can disagree with me if he wants to but I'm highly confident that Dark Matter is called Dark Matter not because it's literally dark, but because we don't know much about it. Same thing with Dark Energy. So we call things "Dark" when we don't know much about it.
So, the Europeans’ knowledge or lack thereof on any matter is the metrics by which the world judges anything? I guess nothing matters until the white man approves it. Such arrogance.
Also dark ages, before the enlightenment.. There is also dark as in communication blackout. Like when a submarine or secrete agent goes dark, they stop transmitting and begin silent operations. The people on the Far side of the moon cannot communicate directly back to earth without an orbiting satellite.
While you are right in your interpretation I think he might have been addressing more the fact that a sufficiently large number of people used the "dark side of the moon" in the literal sense and illuminating them on the realities of the astrology.
Calling it the „dark side“ makes perfect sense. Just like people using the term „dark matter“ it means that it isn’t visible for us (from earth), not that it it’s never touched by sunlight..
Neil didn't give Pink Floyd proper credit.."as a matter of fact it's all dark" I always interpreted as meaning the moon's albedo is only 11% or so, so the moon is essentially BLACK (or very dark gray). So in a way, it IS all "dark"
People who take the album way to seriously. It's metaphorical to begin with and one of the best albums ever. I don't care about its accuracy. And I will continue enjoying it without a care in world about what scientists think about it.
The "dark" side of the Moon actually receives more sunlight than the near side. Two reasons: (1) lunar eclipses only ever blocks sunlight that would have hit the near side and never sunlight that would have hit the "dark" side. (2) the "dark" side is closer to the Sun (by roughly twice the Earth-Moon distance) during its daytime than the near side is during its daytime, so the Sun will shine on the "dark" side more brightly
Thankfully for me, when the album came out, I had enough brains to question that "dark side of the moon" concept, and within maybe 30 seconds, I was able to answer it quite rhetorically, "what happens during a lunar eclipse"?
"Dark side of the moon" means "the side of the moon that we never see in sunlight from Earth"; that phrase makes perfect sense in that regard. Also, the word "dark" is frequently used for the meanings "unknown" and "mysterious", as in "dark energy", "dark flow" and so on, and nobody has any problems with those terms.
The half moon comment reminds me of the flef debunk experiment where you hold up a ball in sunlight at a time when the moon is also visible in the sky and if you hold it such that you can see the moon and the ball side-by-side, you'll see that the shadow on the ball will perfectly match that of the moon.
Dark has an alternative meaning, now somewhat obsolete, in the sense of "hidden, unknown, mysterious": e.g. "Darkest Peru", "he was kept in the dark", "dark secrets".
Had no idea the end track was "Eclipse" all of these years! I listened to that with my friends in the 80's, a decade after it was released...I haven't really listened since, because I chocked most of that music up to being drug infused psychedelic stuff...but 40 years later, I can kind of appreciate.
This was good in it's unstated point: Whimsical fantasy by entertainers is now very often more advertised than fact. We gladly pay these entertainers WAY more than the people who actually explore. Entertainers literally live in castles while scientists struggle to even be heard.
I always understood the term to mean the side of the moon not facing earth due to the “radio darkness” when astronauts were orbiting the moon and they could not communicate with Mission Control.
The album actually tells you that there is no Dark Side Of The Moon if you listen to it. "There is no Dark Side Of The Moon really.. as a matter of fact it's all dark." But suggests it's all dark.
Most amusing fact - the far side of the moon is (on average) darker than the side that faces Earth (and so can genuinely be called the dark side of the moon). There are many reasons for this, but the most obvious is that no Earthshine (sunlight the reflects off planet Earth) falling on it, however there are other factors (e.g. there are more craters on the far side, and therefore more shadows).
If the definition of “going dark” means termination of communication, and the far side of the moon is never in communication with our eyes, one could reasonably define the far side of the moon as the “dark side”.
Yeah, but there's that 2nd line at the end, as you pointed out, "As a matter of fact, it's all dark." Perhaps he's referring to the fact that then lunar surface isn't really white. It only looks so due to the extreme contrast. In fact, I tested this with a flashlight and a colored cloth. It's one of those super bright LED flashlights. Put it close enough to the cloth, and it turns white under the light. So perhaps that what that last line is referring to.
There is a moment in the album when a voice, seemingly coming from a radio or tv broadcast in the background, says “there is no dark side of the moon, actually …”, so if you listen carefully to the album you will not be fooled.
Dark doesn't always mean Black, The Dark Ages didn't mean sunlight wasn't hitting Europe, Dark side of the moon, is the side of the moon we don't know. (or didn't know much off), and as the Intro says, we don't know much about the whole moon, so, its all dark.
The origin of the term "Dark Side of the Moon" is based on radio wave frequencies. It does not have much to do with sunlight light nor any form of albedo.
I'm glad to know that the aliens who live on the dark side of the moon are not always in the dark. Just 15 days, in a row, out of 30. Makes me feel less sad for them.
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Acknee is this a spacesuit issue...
lets gooo
Fun fact: While the Earth takes 24 hrs to turn once, the Moon takes 14 days.
The split side of the moon!!
i hope it is available online at some point, ny/philly is too far from chicago to go for a comedy set despite chuck nice being 1 of my favorite comics now :( let's hear it for the black noise!!
I always thought “dark side of the moon” meant the side we don’t see, but didn’t think that it meant that there is a side that it always dark.
But dark in this sense means unknown or unseen or no communications. Not dark as in no light.
Same here, always interpreted it like this
Ditto, the part we cannot see from Earth is the “dark to our knowledge “
It means what it says
Exactly, in context to all of the other lyrics it means something completely metaphorical also. Sigh.
They never did any damage to me. I thought the "dark side of the moon" was the side we can't normally see from earth. Not that it is never lit by the sun. Timeless album.
Ya can't have your pudding if ya don't eat yer meat....stand still laddie!...same album? Another brick in the wall?
@@jackietreehorn5561 That's from The Wall. Another Brick in the wall is a song on said album.
@@buzzthebuzzard5267 the movie with bob geldof is very good
@@jackietreehorn5561 vegetables, everyone ate the meat
Indeed. Dark as in dark ages or dark horse, or even a person's dark side. It means hidden, not without light
During solar eclipses, the moon casts a shadow, and since it always shows the same side to us, it's easy to reason that the other side is illuminated by the sun.
You would think so but have talked with your fellow citizens
Our solar eclipses are Terran(Earth) eclipses on the near side of the moon and our lunar eclipses are [lunar] "solar eclipses". Anyone need Tylenol? LOL
I don't think that makes it obvious though...
The other side is also illuminated by the sun every time there's a new moon.
@@andrej2375 For an object to cast a shadow, it must be illuminated from behind by a source of light. How many light sources you know in our solar system capable of illuminate so strong an object the size of the moon in order for it to cast a shadow ?
1:08 or you could've just told them to listen to the whole album,,,,final lyrics are literally "There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun."
Only thing is...there is no "the only thing that makes it look light is the sun" at the end.
Great wisdom from the doorman of EMI studios.
Except the illuminated part of the moon is REALLY REALLY bright. It's hard to call that dark in any sense.
But that quote was the first thing I thought of
@@SuprousOxide the moon's albedo (amount of light reflected) is between .07 and .14 (7-14%). It's dark, the sun is just REALLY REALLY bright....
@@drumz36 it's there, just quiet
"There is no dark side of the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun."
Epic final lyrics casually whispered
Pink Floyd wanted to say something which we can only whisper, so the secret police doesn't hear us. The moon is all dark... inside... because it's hollow.
Damnit. You beat me to it.
Thank you!! Finally!!
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But it wasn't whispered
In the context of the album 'The Dark Side of The Moon' is a metaphor for what we now call mental illness, but at the time was referred to as lunacy, hence the lunar connection.
Don't go and spoil Egghead's podcast! LOL
"The Dark Side of the Moon" was inspired by Syd Barrett...as well as most of what they did.."wish you were here", "the wall" is a mixture of Roger Waters issues with society and withdraw, and Syd. The Dark Side of the Moon was pretty even handed...all members wrote (Waters, Gilmour, Wright... Mason's drumming even shows up in "Time"...) something significant... though touches on , obviously life and death..war ...the rat race we are all in, and one track directly about mental illness, he either got a bad dose, some say intentionally as his popularity was at its zenith..may have even had the wrong girl. Too much of the original LSD 25 (original recipe) probably wouldn't cause the drastic and quick changes seen by Pink Floyd...unless he was unstable to begin with "if" LSD unlocked the "dam that broke many years too soon". Either way..Wish You Were Here was written minus "cigar" exclusively for Syd...or mental illness, dark side was the first to bring that up though. Excellent video too!!!
no it isn’t. you are completely, emphatically and totally wrong. i don’t care what you heard, you are intellectually poor if you think the album is about mental illness. start over and think through it yourself. this is the only way to understand it. by the time you’re done you’ll realize how wrong you are about everything in life.
What’s even crazier is, I just rocked this album out in its entirety while driving around for work today. I had to replay The Great Gig in the Sky a few times before proceeding on to the end, however. That track is an experience all on its own. Great video as always, gents 🍻
You have a turntable in your car?
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Seems to be quite a longer trip then? Oh boy… 🙄
I recommend checking out the live album PULSE, the Dark Side of the Moon performances are incredible
There *is* a dark side of the Moon. It just changes all the time.
And we seen it in the 'Eclipse'😬 great song too lol
Every 15 days more or less...
Guess what..? There's a dark side on the Earth too....
When Startalk, science … goes to click bait.
Like on earth, Like on Us ! 😆
I'm a speaker of French from Québec, Canada. In French, we always refer to what English speakers refer to as "Dark side of the moon" as "la face cachée de la lune" meaning "hidden face of the moon", which is the right way to describe it.
Some parts of Earth, the moon and everything else that orbits the sun are in total darkness until they rotate toward the sun's rays. So the title of the song is actually correct. There is a dark side of the moon just not a permanent one.
"...It's all dark" at some point. Except for the circumsolar craters... If there are some craters always shrouded in darkness, where they're looking for ice... it stands to reason that some peaks opposite those, on the globe of the moon, would always be sun-scorched. Then I wonder whether there's a location, in some perfect placed caves or crater wall, in the shadows near the sunniest pole, where the temperature isn't too bad. Would that have an advantage over a perpetually cold and dark spot that has abundant ice... for human habitation, I mean. It's just a thought experiment, for now.
Well said :-) Pretty much all the time half the Moon is in daylight and therefore the other half is "well" DARK.
"_THE_ Dark Side" is pretty specific,
Ive not watched startalk in ages but pink floyd will get me to do anything
I always thought that the album was a metaphor, but the scientific reference was that the lunar orbiter was out of radio contact. Areas without radio comms are known as dark territories (as mentioned in Under Siege 2: Dark Territory)
it ya a metaphor, it’s not about the moon, not about mental illness. you will have to figure it out yourself. no one will tell you. you will never find anyone who will tell you. begin again.
The last words on the album as the heartbeat fades are "there is no dark side of the Moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
Dark in the meaning "not self-luminous."
Greatest album ever
Greatest. Album. Ever.
To anyone between the ages of about 55 to 65...? I'll admit myself that it IS indeed the greatest album ever.
@@embroiledalive5232 For what it’s worth, I’m 33 and I listen to metal, classical and 90’s hip hop. I still second the vote for DSOTM as the greatest musical piece of them all. Lol. Big Pun Capital Punishment is 2nd.
@@bovinejonie3745 yeah. It's great that you know and love Pink Floyd. I wonder how common that is across age groups. I did read the other day that it is one of the most popular albums (dsotm) across ages --but they didn't give details.
@@bovinejonie3745 Here’s one for you, Dark Side is the best album ever recorded… but it’s not even Pink Floyd’s best album.
Having atmospheric pressure is mind bllowing and Neil pointing out that light behaves differently than on the moon due to it not having air diffusing light
The what now
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I'm only now, beginning to understand how different my family was. My brother and dad made every moment a learning experience.
Thank you for these videos, they remind me of them😢
Ryan Goose guy, in gratitude for your family's service, I shall knight thee. Arise, Sir Goose of Bread.
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"Dark Side of the Moon" stayed in the charts for 937 weeks! And is still to this day, the #2 largest-selling album of all time.
17.5 years I believe. Awesome.
What's the number 1
@@numbrocker I believe it's Michael Jackson's 'Thriller', but I could be wrong.
@NorthernChev is there any hip hop album that is in the top 10?
@@numbrocker There is something called google. you can look things up, its really crazy
One of the best albums ever made. Still holds up.
The transformers Dark of the moon was the best one. We have definitely been misinformed by Dark side of the moon, but it still sounds cool.
I was under the impression that the term "dark side of the moon" referred to the fact nobody had seen it until the advent of space exploration and "dark" meant it was unknown to us, like dark matter and dark energy.
They did get one bit right, when they penned the line “teacher! Leave those kids alone!” They were spot on.
No, the line is, "Leave them kids alone," illustrating the consequences of being uneducated.
Different album: The Wall
Popular culture can sometimes be demagogic.
@@jamesharmon4994 …. *those* is more grammatically correct. My brain automatically corrects it even when I am listening to the song. I’ll take the quotes off for yah.
@@jamesharmon4994 I just listened to a live recording I have and he absolutely says “those”, I’m putting the quotes back.
"See? You should have taken out Pink Floyd, the way you took out Pluto...." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I could be wrong, however, the final track is named "Eclipse", with the last singing lyric before the guy who speaks sings, "the sun is eclipsed by the moon". Which always lead me to believe that they meant that the story line of the album is occurring during the time that Earth is passing through the Moon's shadow. At least by the final track, we are on the dark side of the moon. Reaching the totality of the eclipse. Not stating there is any permanent dark side, but using the eclipse as a metiphore for their style of lyrical poetry.
Agree 💯
Exactly, I was here to post the exact same thing. It’s a significant part of the album.
@@bridey1simon It is a significant part. I understand if Neil was never into Pink Floyd. I just always think of how scientific the eclipse aspect is when he misunderstands.
There was actually an album released by a band called Medicine Head in 1971 called Dark Side of the Moon. Pink Floyd considered naming their album 'Eclipse' and putting the Silver Surfer on the cover because of that. But they decided to wait and see what happened with the other album. When that one flopped, they went ahead with naming their album Dark Side of the Moon and using the now iconic prism graphic on the cover.
ahhhh cool
Source: "Trust me bro."
@@TiffanySlutt-qs3wi David Gilmour is quoted as saying this to writer Glenn Povey for his biography about the band, _Echoes._
Trust is overrated, bro. Look it up.
I've decided that there are only 4 planets in our solar system because I think all planets should have surfaces.
Not bad. Not bad. 😮
The phrase "Dark side of the moon" is not literal how people think it is, like it is always in dark, it is just how we say for the things we can't see from here (Earth) because of the tidal lock. We all know that the moon revolve around Earth and every moment different area is being bombarded by a sun and another one going to shade :D
But it is nice to finally solve the "Dark side of the moon" once and for all for people who really doesn't know :D
Keep up great content both Niel and Chuck, great work
I studied Orbital Mechanics, I know very well what goes on at the side of the Moon (which I like to call Luna) that we never see from the surface of the Earth - because of the tidal lock.
That said, i still want to call the Far Side of the Moon with the "Dark Side" appellative. It made true sense when we knew less about the Solar System.
The "Dark Side" appellative contains a millennia of beautiful Ellenic poetry about Selene - and then Luna - in a circle of darkness rounded in infinite repeatability.
The Dark Side tells me the history of astronomy. The Far Side tells me of a newer but glacial knowledge. A knowledge from who calls a lack of knowledge, without knowing simple things like what is a libration point between the Moon and the Earth.
Thanks for the great video!
Greetings,
Anthony
But to be correct, it isn't the far side, but the far hemisphere.
I like how Chuck just pretend that he is a complete dumb dumb so that we can have this fun learning experience.
We need SO much more Chuck Nice in our lives. A true gift. Neil is fine too.
Another awesome video, keep up the work guys! Especially you lord nice.
I'm glad Neil finally cleared this up. I was just very recently thinking about this misconception. I felt all along that Pink Floyd was aware that the far side of the Moon isn't always the dark side. Just the fact that a song called Eclipse is on the album, which I believe refers to a Solar Eclipse, in which the dark side of the Moon is facing Earth.
Thank you for all the great videos you guys keep sending us. Always love to learn something new!
so much fun 😊
We all see the dark side of the moon during an eclipse but the brightness of the sun blinds us
I always took that dark as a metaphor for the side we can't see. So it's dark to us in a sense that we, for the longest time, didn't know anything about.
Another thing that comes to my mind is is there any place in the universe that's actually dark? And how do you messure that? Photons per cubic meter? What is the border between dark and whatever is the opposite of it?
you thought the moon didnt spin?????????????????????????????????????
You can't read? The moon spins exactly once per rotation around earth. So it shows us the same side at all time.
I also think of it in terms of radio broadcasts. You need something in lunar orbit to relay the signal. If you want to get away from it all, that is where you want to be.
The term "dark side of the Moon" is a bit of a misnomer. In reality, the Moon has a far side that is never visible from Earth due to synchronous rotation, but it receives just as much sunlight as the near side. The far side is often called the "dark side" due to its relative inaccessibility and the mystery surrounding it before the space age. Exploring this region has provided valuable insights into lunar geology and the history of our solar system. How does the far side of the Moon differ geologically from the near side, and what have recent missions revealed about this previously unexplored area that could enhance our understanding of the Moon's formation and evolution?
In french, we call that side "La face cachée de la lune". It would translate to "The hidden side of the moon"... Really more accurate.
Sounds more poetic in French too
"The Dark side of the moon" is one of the greatest albums ever made. Pink Floyd was and is still the most influential rock band ever
Educational as always.
Before we start please never stop♥️
11:15 Hey Neil, “we don’t need no education!”
you guys are good, so happy for Chuck and Neil's StarTalk.
BUT IF YOU PAY ATTENTION, at the end of the record, you hear Gerry O'Driscoll (a doorman at Abbey Road Studios) closing out the album with the words, "There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark." ;)
Neil did say this in the video.
“You should have took floyed out the same way you took out Pluto!!” I yelled thank you and laughed so hard at this😂. Never let him forget. R.I.P Pluto 😂
IMO Floyd was referring to the side of the moon than we see during a solar eclipse - the dark side. It’s only dark half the time, but a solar eclipse can only happen during a new moon.
Also IMO, in DSOTM the sun represents awareness and consciousness. Someday the sun will set on all of our lives, and the eclipse represents our realization of that - our curse is to be aware that someday our consciousness will die with us.
Just my take on it - I’d be interested to hear the thoughts of others.
Excellent take, and I thought about that as well, the first time I finally heard the album in its entirety.
The final track title Eclipse and the use of words in the song i think cement your point nicely :) also remarkably i hadn't put that together until just now despite listening to it for years..hahaa. so thanks 🎉😁💫
This is 100% the meaning behind the metaphors. It also represents lunacy in Brain Damage.
8:44 "Where the sun is shining it's 200 degrees above zero, you can sit out a cup of water and boil it". I guess the temperature doesn't really matter, cause there is no air pressure (or it is very low), and water will boil in much lower temperatures. Can you even have a liquid water on the Moon in a cup?
No any liquid water on the moon either in sunlight or shadow will still boil away at any temperature..
This is one of Niels pet peeves. But his frustration is due to his own assumption. There is always a dark side of the moon because it's a spheroid. He assumed that the lyric meant a "perpetually dark side" of the moon.
Tyson is down with OCD
Great explainer Neil & Chuck! Perhaps they should have titled that album "The Not So Dark Side Of The Moon". 😉😉👍👍
I love how he says theres no dark side, then explains there is
Haha right?
Everyone missed one of the final lines of the album in Asylum where they say "there is no dark side of the moon really, in fact it's all dark".
They are two different things; Dark side vs. Far side. They are not always the same. At some point (full moon or lunar eclipse approx.) the dark side is equal to the far side (approx.).
The far side of the moon actually receives more total sunlight than the side facing Earth as it never experiences lunar eclipses with the Earth's shadow passing over it, so perhaps what we can see is "the dark side". Just a thought🤔
This is the first time I can think of where I strongly disagree with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Yes there is a Dark Side of the Moon. It's not literally dark. It's called the dark side of the Moon because it's the side that doesn't face the Earth so there is little known about it. Just in the same way that Africa is called the Dark Continent. It's not called that because Africa gets less sunlight and it's also not called that because of skin color. It's called that because European explorers hadn't explored the interior of the continent and so very little was known about it. Neil can disagree with me if he wants to but I'm highly confident that Dark Matter is called Dark Matter not because it's literally dark, but because we don't know much about it. Same thing with Dark Energy. So we call things "Dark" when we don't know much about it.
So, the Europeans’ knowledge or lack thereof on any matter is the metrics by which the world judges anything?
I guess nothing matters until the white man approves it. Such arrogance.
Also dark ages, before the enlightenment.. There is also dark as in communication blackout. Like when a submarine or secrete agent goes dark, they stop transmitting and begin silent operations. The people on the Far side of the moon cannot communicate directly back to earth without an orbiting satellite.
Dark age :)
@@Imalittlecloud Yeah, that's a good one. The Dark Ages had nothing whatsoever to do with sunlight.
While you are right in your interpretation I think he might have been addressing more the fact that a sufficiently large number of people used the "dark side of the moon" in the literal sense and illuminating them on the realities of the astrology.
Calling it the „dark side“ makes perfect sense. Just like people using the term „dark matter“ it means that it isn’t visible for us (from earth), not that it it’s never touched by sunlight..
Doesn’t it just rotate at the same speed it revolves around the earth and causes it to look like the same?
It’s called being “tidal(ly) locked”
Please please please never stop ♥️
Thankyou so very much ! Finally Indian science and space programme being recognised at its fullest....
Good luck Chuck for your contribution to spread smiles 😊. Thank you neil for making youtube a little better everyday ❤
The far side of the moon only a few astronauts cosmonauts have seen this
No cosmonauts have seen it.
@@bigdopamine9343 I was talking about just humans 😯
Fun fact: While the Earth takes 24 hrs to turn once, the Moon takes 15 days.
@@sekaramochi ok, you’re still wrong. no Russians have ever orbited the moon.
@@raymondamador1487 no not 15 days, about 27 days. Someone on the moon would see about 2 weeks of sun and then 2 weeks of dark.
"...the same way you took out Pluto"
Shots fired!
Hey, they're just musicans. Musicians are idiots (I'm one myself!).
Gonna listen the album one more time now.
Neil didn't give Pink Floyd proper credit.."as a matter of fact it's all dark" I always interpreted as meaning the moon's albedo is only 11% or so, so the moon is essentially BLACK (or very dark gray). So in a way, it IS all "dark"
The fact that the moon is visible during the day should clue people in to the meaning of "dark side"
When we see a solar eclipse, we are literally looking directly at the entire dark side of the moon, albeit, the same face, it’s just dark now.
I thought "Dark side of the Moon" is where you loss communication between earth and the spacecraft orbiting moon.
People who take the album way to seriously. It's metaphorical to begin with and one of the best albums ever. I don't care about its accuracy. And I will continue enjoying it without a care in world about what scientists think about it.
The "dark" side of the Moon actually receives more sunlight than the near side. Two reasons: (1) lunar eclipses only ever blocks sunlight that would have hit the near side and never sunlight that would have hit the "dark" side. (2) the "dark" side is closer to the Sun (by roughly twice the Earth-Moon distance) during its daytime than the near side is during its daytime, so the Sun will shine on the "dark" side more brightly
Neil's rant makes it feel really appropriate that the song that has the album title in the lyrics is called 'Brain damage'.
Jerry even tells you at the end of the song.... "Matter of fact, it's all dark." How much clearer could it be? 😁
I'm loving this episode. Chuck is on 🔥 today.
Thanks for the smiles guys.
The moon is flat, not tidally locked. Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.
"Dark Side of the Moon" where we disposed of all the worlds nuclear warheads in the year 1999 until that tragic day on September 13th.
That day when the moon was promoted from satelite to rogue planet 🥳
Niel and Chuck y'all rock! Love the channel and content. Peace
i appreciate this video because i never new that there wasnt a dark side
Thankfully for me, when the album came out, I had enough brains to question that "dark side of the moon" concept, and within maybe 30 seconds, I was able to answer it quite rhetorically, "what happens during a lunar eclipse"?
"Dark side of the moon" means "the side of the moon that we never see in sunlight from Earth";
that phrase makes perfect sense in that regard.
Also, the word "dark" is frequently used for the meanings "unknown" and "mysterious", as in "dark energy", "dark flow" and so on, and nobody has any problems with those terms.
I hope you have a GREAT show @ the theater, CHUCK!
This channel is one of my favorite channels to watch
8:47
Understatement to say the least , thank you Chuck!
The half moon comment reminds me of the flef debunk experiment where you hold up a ball in sunlight at a time when the moon is also visible in the sky and if you hold it such that you can see the moon and the ball side-by-side, you'll see that the shadow on the ball will perfectly match that of the moon.
Dark has an alternative meaning, now somewhat obsolete, in the sense of "hidden, unknown, mysterious": e.g. "Darkest Peru", "he was kept in the dark", "dark secrets".
Had no idea the end track was "Eclipse" all of these years! I listened to that with my friends in the 80's, a decade after it was released...I haven't really listened since, because I chocked most of that music up to being drug infused psychedelic stuff...but 40 years later, I can kind of appreciate.
The album even says there's no such thing. "There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark."
This was good in it's unstated point: Whimsical fantasy by entertainers is now very often more advertised than fact. We gladly pay these entertainers WAY more than the people who actually explore. Entertainers literally live in castles while scientists struggle to even be heard.
I always understood the term to mean the side of the moon not facing earth due to the “radio darkness” when astronauts were orbiting the moon and they could not communicate with Mission Control.
I always think the dark side of the moon is the loss of communication. That's a running theme in alot of their music.
The album actually tells you that there is no Dark Side Of The Moon if you listen to it. "There is no Dark Side Of The Moon really.. as a matter of fact it's all dark." But suggests it's all dark.
Most amusing fact - the far side of the moon is (on average) darker than the side that faces Earth (and so can genuinely be called the dark side of the moon). There are many reasons for this, but the most obvious is that no Earthshine (sunlight the reflects off planet Earth) falling on it, however there are other factors (e.g. there are more craters on the far side, and therefore more shadows).
Next lets get onto Fleetwood Mac. The other day we had some thunder and there WASN'T ANY rain!
If the definition of “going dark” means termination of communication, and the far side of the moon is never in communication with our eyes, one could reasonably define the far side of the moon as the “dark side”.
They said it in the album: "There is no dark side of the moon. As a matter of fact, it's all dark."
My favorite explainer ever. Learned so much. Good graphics. Even Chuck was funny.
How about darker side of the moon? As the far side doesn't get any earthshine
Yeah, but there's that 2nd line at the end, as you pointed out, "As a matter of fact, it's all dark." Perhaps he's referring to the fact that then lunar surface isn't really white. It only looks so due to the extreme contrast. In fact, I tested this with a flashlight and a colored cloth. It's one of those super bright LED flashlights. Put it close enough to the cloth, and it turns white under the light. So perhaps that what that last line is referring to.
What made the other side of the moon “dark” was the fact that it would never show its face to us.
There is a moment in the album when a voice, seemingly coming from a radio or tv broadcast in the background, says “there is no dark side of the moon, actually …”, so if you listen carefully to the album you will not be fooled.
If you've ever thought about how a solar eclipse works for any amount of time, you'd know there is no eternally dark side of the moon.
Dark doesn't always mean Black, The Dark Ages didn't mean sunlight wasn't hitting Europe, Dark side of the moon, is the side of the moon we don't know. (or didn't know much off), and as the Intro says, we don't know much about the whole moon, so, its all dark.
The origin of the term "Dark Side of the Moon" is based on radio wave frequencies. It does not have much to do with sunlight light nor any form of albedo.
I'm glad to know that the aliens who live on the dark side of the moon are not always in the dark. Just 15 days, in a row, out of 30. Makes me feel less sad for them.